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Episode 199: Nathan Gallagher - On Validation
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Episode 199: Nathan Gallagher - On Validation

The photographer, musician and snowboarder on creativity, our wider search for validation, and the lessons he learned from photographing Cristiano Ronaldo.
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Nathan Gallagher photographed by Owen Tozer, London, January 2023

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Episode 199! How on earth did that happen?

I’ve had a couple of admin and R&R focussed weeks since I released the Festive Special, but now I’m back and raring to go with a lovely, timely chat with photographer, musician and snowboarder Nathan Gallagher.


Nathan by Owen

Nath’s a very old friend I first met in the mid-90s, when we were young snowboarding idiots looking for a way into the industry. We’ve been friends ever since and I’ve watched with real pride and interest over the intervening years as he’s created a really unique and commercially successful creative career for himself.

And, as you’ll hear, Nathan has a lot of really original and interesting things to say about art, creativity, the voices in our heads that dictate the paths we follow, and our wider search for validation.


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Nathan by Owen

This conversation came at a good time for me personally. Firstly, there was the chat itself, an intensely pleasurable exchange that was a brilliant reminder that, for me, the conversation has always been the ultimate reward when it comes to Looking Sideways.

Photo: Owen

But I also needed to hear Nathan’s canny, empathetic message about the importance of remembering why we do creative work; and how, in today’s digital landscape, judging anything on the numbers (especially your self-esteem) is a modern fool’s errand. Like anybody, I’m not immune to such corrosive reflections, so I found Nath’s expert, passionate analysis of the dynamics at play here completely fascinating and, personally, extremely timely.


Photo: Owen

I hope you get as much our of our conversation as I did. If so - tell me in the comments, or if you’re a paid subscriber who has any feedback or questions about this week’s episode, hit me up directly in the subscriber chat thread. Looking forward to hearing what everybody thinks of this one.

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Looking Sideways Action Sports Podcast
Presented by Matt Barr, Looking Sideways is a podcast about the best stories in skateboarding, snowboarding, surfing, and other related endeavours.